TIL that Los Angeles County in California has a higher population than 43 US states.
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Because you think you’re opinions are worth more than someone else’s?
Because an even representation of different communities with different needs is necessary for a complete functioning country. We are way too heteroz for three homoz cities to decide everything.
That’s not what the President is for.
That’s literally what Congress is for. The Electoral College is literally just “people are stupid, so the elites need to be able to overrule them in case they elect someone not fit for office.”
It’s literally the compromise between “let’s elect a president” and “let’s allow the wealthy and powerful to elect a president”.
The president is a representation of the country as a whole, and thus the whole of the country should equally decide who is elected.
The electoral congress is to ensure that.
The president is a representation of the country as a whole, and thus the whole of the country should equally decide who is elected.
That is what 1 person 1 vote would do. Every person has the same power.
The electoral congress is to ensure that.
The electoral college explicitly does the opposite of that.
Except your definition of whole and mine are obviously different. One vote per person, while technically equal, isn’t fair. This would give like three cities complete power over who was president, all other areas would be ignored. With the electoral college, all of the states matter, and types of communities get voices rather than the cities. Which is fairer to the needs of the communities. I do, however, believe districts should be divided a bit differently than they are.
If we run on a democratic system instead of a Constitutional republic system, these cities would rule the states and pick the president.
population in this order-
New York
Los Angeles
Chicago
Houston
Phoenix
Philadelphia
San Antonio
San Diego
Dallas
San Jose
The first 6 win an election, I put the last four on there for good measure. why should the people of these cities decide who is going to be president. does the vote of the person in that little hick town not count. I think it does because I used to live in that little hick town. Now I live in one of these cities, and let me tell you the general view points, politics and world view are totally different. So I am all for for ensuring the electoral college stays in place and each region gets its say in the matter of who shall be our president. No matter who wins.
You should actually do the math on this. Add up the population of these cities. Yes, all of them. You get ~26 million people. And you’re assuming they’re all eligible to vote (they aren’t) and that they all vote Democrat (they don’t).
That’s less than half the number of people who voted for Trump in 2016.
What are you really afraid of?
Peoples voices getting drowned out regardless of party
But you’re okay with disregarding the majority vote just because you happen to like the geographical distribution of the minority vote better.
Yes. Because all democracy does is allow 51 percent (the majority) of the voters to oppress 49 percent (the minority). A good anolgy for this is two hungry wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner.
I’m also willing to admit that our current system has its flaws. But for the time being I believe that it is the system we should use, till a better system can be put in place. The reason I believe this is it allows for everyone’s voice to be heard equally wether you live in California or North Dakotah. It also steps on the least amount of toes.
Picking the president by majority is not oppression, for fuck’s sake.
I think we are going to have to agree to disagree and move on.
Nah, we’re going to have to agree that you’re wrong.
Electing our Executive through the electoral college as a representative republic as intended by our Framers is not oppression either. But one has to wonder why they decided to choose that method instead of a popular national election. Well, that’s because the Framers understood the importance of autonomy among the states. They didn’t want the larger populated states to drown out their representation. That’s why popular vote wasn’t even tallied until 1824.
But today, everyone–the alt-right and progressives alike–are a bunch of simplistic, ahistorical nationalists. They don’t care about federalism whatsoever until it comes to protecting pet projects like sanctuary cities and gun control.
And let’s just be honest though, progressives only care about the popular vote because of the large concentration of left-leaning types and dependents who congregate and grow in large metropolitan areas scattered around the country, thanks to the “Curley Effect.”
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