“Well to be fair most nine year olds probably don’t have their periods yet anon” … I don’t know who that anon is, but this happened to a friend of mine, when she was 9. She got really sick, but the doctors weren’t allowed to perform an abortion. They knew she would die during childbirth. But rather than remove the baby, who they knew was braindead from when my friend was shot for being pregnant, she died during childbirth. They both died, rather than just the baby. Is that ok?

prolifeproliberty:

distance-does-not-matter:

No, it is not. If the baby is brain dead, it is not an abortion. An abortion is killing a living baby, not removing a dead baby.

I don’t mind debating, but if you have serious questions, I would direct you to @prolifeproliberty and @patron-saint-of-smart-asses. I know some stuff, and I’m open for debate and discussion, but I can’t do this right now, and besides, I’m just a teenager. I don’t have resources

Wow Anon, this sounds like an intense situation. I have a lot of questions.

(Side note: yes girls can get their periods that young. I taught 4th grade last year and my students were 9 turning 10, and I had a student in my class who started getting her period that year.)

1. What happened to the person who got this girl pregnant? The vast majority of pregnant girls that young are victims of sexual assault by an adult, usually someone they know. Was there any consequence for him?

2. Where did this take place? American medicine, and medicine in most developed countries, can handle a lot of pregnancy complications IF the patient sees the right specialists. 99.9% of the time when a doctor says someone needs an abortion, what they really need is a second opinion. Unfortunately, many doctors default to abortion because it’s easier to refer a patient with complications to @plannedparenthood than to provide actual care.

3. Who shot her? Again, were there consequences? It sounds like there is a lot of injustice in this story, without which we wouldn’t even be talking about an abortion.

4. How did they know the baby was brain dead? I’ve seen way too many cases where doctors were “positive” the baby was brain dead/not going to survive/severely disabled and recommended abortion, only for the parents to refuse and then give birth to a perfectly healthy baby. From the whole thing about the doctors not being able to save her life without killing the baby, it doesn’t sound like she had access to any kind of competent medical care.

5. Even if there was no way to save the baby and mother, an “abortion” wouldn’t have been the answer. An early delivery or c-section might have been an option, depending on the circumstances. The thing about pregnancy is that the baby has to come out somehow. The question is whether you’re deliberately killing the baby first. I have yet to encounter a situation where deliberately killing the baby before removing him/her was necessary to save the mother’s life.

To answer your question “Is that ok?”, NOTHING about this story is okay. A 9-year-old was presumably raped, became pregnant, was SHOT FOR BEING PREGNANT, and then incompetent doctors refused to try any other means of saving her life when they weren’t allowed to kill her baby.

Is the lack of abortion access REALLY what you have a problem with here?

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